Tuesday, 31 January 2012

Punjabi Baluch

History and origin

There are 2.5 million Baloch in Punjab, making Punjab home to the largest Baloch population (outside of Balochistan) in the world. In addition to that the main Punjabi tribe of Rajputs have a close genetic resemblance to Baloch, especially the Alpial clan living in Potohar region. Opposition leader Chawdhry Nisar Ali Khan is from Alpial Rajputs and one of the Alpial ancestors was Rai Baloch Khan. The belt between river Jhelum and Indus, north from Islamabad down to Muzzafargarh and Dera Ghazi Khan was formerly called as Rabalistan. If so than the Baloch hold a strategically important territory in Pakistan, surrounding the capital Islamabad, down from Potohari speaking regions to the Siraiki areas. The Baloch claim a mixed ancestry, asserting that they are descended, on the one hand, from Amir Hamza an uncle of the Prophet Mohammed and from a fairy (Pari), and on the other, from the Kurds living in the area of Aleppo, Syria from which they were expelled in A. D. 580 by the Sasanian Persian King Chosroes I Anoshervan. Their migration took them first to the area of Alborz Mountains and Qazvin to Kerman, then Sistan, and finally into Makran. In time, most of the territory of Makran has come to be known as Balochistan--"Land of the Baloch." In the 13th century, some of the Baloch moved into Sindh (where they are known as the Sindhi Baloch) and also into Punjab. Many Baloch tribal warriors were hired by the sultans of Oman and other emirs in the Persian Gulf as their body guards and soldiers, carrying them as far off as east Africa. There a large number of these Baloch in the Arabian Peninsual now, where the family name "al-Balooshi" (The Balochi) is commonly the small emirates in the Persian Gulf—from Bahrain to Qatar, the UAE and Oman. There, they form a well-to-do class of people. These have, as of late, tried, for obvious reasons, to join the origins of the Baloch to the Arabs. Historically and linguistically, this is untenable if not impossible.
About the beginning of the 16th century the Balochis were driven out of the Kalat valley by the Brahuis and Turks. Yielding to pressure they moved eastward into the Sulaimans, drove out the Pathans, and settled along the banks of the Indus. Three Baloch adventurers Ismail Khan, Fatteh Khan, and Ghazi Khan, founded the three Dehras that bear their names, and established themselves as independent rulers of the Lower Derajat and Muzaffargarh, which they and their descendants held for nearly 300 years. The three brothers founded the settlements of Dera Ghazi Khan, Dera Ismail Khan and Darya Khan. Thence the southern Balochis gradually spread into the valleys of the Indus, Chenab, and Sutlej, and in 1555 a large body of Balochis, under their great leader Mir Chakar, accompanied the Emperor Humayun into India. It is probable that many of the Baloch settlements, in the Eastern districts of the Punjab, were founded by Humayun's soldiers. Mir Chakar settled in Sahiwal and his tomb still exists at Satgarha, where he founded a military colony of Rinds.
Long before Mir Chakar's time, Mir Jalal Khan was one of the Baloch historical rulers, and from his four sons— Rind, Lashar, Hot and Korai — spring the four main Baloch tribes. The Jatoi are the children of Jatoi, Jalal Khan's daughter. These main sections are now divided into innumerable septs. Throughout the Punjab the term Baloch denotes any Muslim camel-man. The word has come to be associated with the care of camels, because the Baloch settlers of the Western plains have taken to the grazing and breeding of camels rather than to husbandry, and every Baloch is supposed to be a camelman and every camel-man to be a Baloch.[3]

[edit] Present circumstances

The Baloch of the Punjab plains is now altogether separated from the Baloch tribes of Balochistan and the Derajat, although the same tribal names are still found among them. Long residence in Punjab and inter-marriage with the Jats has deprived them of many of their characteristics, and they have now forgotten the Baloch language and have abandoned the Baloch dress. They now speak Seraiki in the south of Punjab, while those in the districts of Faisalabad , Sahiwal, Jhang, Sargodha and Khushab speak Punjabi.
They are good Muslims, fair agriculturists. In character they are brave, chivalrous, and honourable. In physique they are tall, thin, wiry, hardy, and frugal in their habits.[4]

[edit] Distribution and Main Clans

The Baloch are found mainly in the districts of Multan, Lodhran Muzaffargarh, Dera Ghazi Khan districts in sothern Punjab and Jhang, Sargodha, Khushab and Sahiwal districts of central Punjab.
The following clans are those most commonly found of the Punjab : —
Chandio Korai, Jatoi,Gopang, Mashori, Rind, Khushk, Gurmani, Dashti, Jatoi, Gishkauri, Mazari, Hot, Pitafi and Zangeza, Jalbani, Gurchani.
The Rind, Jatoi and Korai are numerous in Multan, Jhang, Sahiwal, Sargodha and Muzaffargarh districts. While the Gopangs and Dashtis, both are found in the Muzaffargarh district. The Hot are found in Jhang, Multan and Muzaffargarh, and the Gurmanis, Khushik, Giskhauris, Pitafis in Muzaffargarh and Rahimyar Khan. While the Mazaris in Jhang,Jaccobabad,Rajanpur,Kashmore and Rahimyar khan. The Magassi Baloch, who are found in Multan, Muzaffargarh, Mianwali and Jhang, appear to be a "peculiar people" rather than a tribe.Jalbani tribe is concentrated in D.G.Khan and Rajanpur districts in the Punjab. Both Sunnis and Shias are found among them and they have several peculiar customs not to be found among other Balochis.

Jatoi (Baloch tribe)

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Jatoi (Urdu: جتوئی ) is the name of a Baloch tribe in Sindh, Pakistan. The Jatoi originated from Balochistan. sub clans of jatoi baloch are bullo,misrani,nacharani,shar,kharoos
The Baloch or Baluch (Balochi: بلوچ) are an ethnic group that belong to the larger Iranian peoples. Baluch people mainly inhabit the Balochistan region and Sistan and Baluchestan Province in the southeast corner of the Iranian plateau in Western Asia.
The Baluch people mainly speak Baluchi, which is a branch of the Iranian languages, and more specifically of the North-western Iranian languages, that is highly influenced by that of Mesopotamia and shares similarities with Kurdish and other languages of the region. It also contains archaic features reminiscent of Old Persian and Avestan.[7] They inhabit mountainous terrains and deserts, and maintain a very distinct cultural identity. The Baloch-speaking population worldwide is estimated to be in the range of 10 to 15 million.[citation needed] However, the exact number of Baloch and those who are or claim to be of Baloch ancestry is difficult to determine. In the Punjab province of Pakistan almost 10% of peoples are Balochi.[citation needed] Most of them speak Saraiki but in the Jhang area of Punjab, the majority of the Baloch population speak Punjabi also.[citation needed]
It is possible that there are more Baloch than simply those who claim Balochi as their mother tongue. This, however, raises the question as to who is and is not a Baloch, as many surrounding peoples claim to be of Baloch descent but do not speak Balochi. The Brahui, having lived in proximity to the Baloch, have absorbed substantial linguistic and genetic admixture from the Baloch and in many cases are indistinguishable. Despite very few cultural differences from the Baloch, the Brahui are still regarded as a separate group on account of language difference.
The higher population figures for the Baloch may only be possible if a large number of "Baloch" are included who speak different languages like Saraiki, Sindhi, Panjabi and Brahui, and who often claim descent from Baloch ancestors. Many Baloch outside of Balochistan are also bilingual or of mixed ancestry due to their proximity to other ethnic groups, including the Sindhis, Brahui, Persians, Saraikis and Pashtuns. A large number of Baloch have been migrating to or living in provinces adjacent to Balochistan for centuries. Balochs make up 2% of Iran's population (1.5 million) and live in its southeastern provinces. In addition, there are many Baloch living in other parts of the world, with the bulk living in the GCC countries of the Persian Gulf.
About 60 percent of the Baluch live in Balochistan, a western province in the Pakistan.[8] Around 25 percent inhabit the eastern province of Sistan and Baluchestan Province in the Islamic Republic of Iran; a significant number of Baluch people also live in Sindh and South Punjab in Pakistan. Many of the rest live in Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait and in some parts of Africa, namely Kenya, and Tanzania (Tabora has a large community). Small communities of Baluch people also live in Europe (particularly Sweden, Norway, Denmark & England) and in Perth, Australia, where they arrived in the 19th century.


Jatoi (Hindi: जटोई, Urdu: جتوئی ) is a gotra of Jats found in Sindh province of Pakistan. Jatoi is the name of a Baloch tribe in Sindh, Pakistan. The Jatoi originated from Balochistan. The sub clans of Jatoi Baloch are Bullo, Misrani, Nacharani.





Hukum Singh Panwar (Pauria) [1] discussing about the variants of Jat writes that in Baluchistan the Jat is also known as Jatoi or Jatgal or Jagdal[2], The Jagdal, the notorious camel drivers, however, were not Jats but some other tribes akin to Jats. Jatoi betrays the old Hellenic impact[3] which presumably lasts even up to the present time in Sindh and Baluchistan.
Hukum Singh Panwar (Pauria)[4] further writes that H.W. Bailey , a keen student of Chinese language, who identified Yueh-Chih with the Jatoi, Iatii mentioned by Ptolemy and who were Jats of Cunningham , Tod, Elphinstone etc.

Sunday, 29 January 2012

Who"s Chor Are We All ?

PCG anoucies price 2700/40kg to ginner the farmer who grows 40 kg cotton get max 2400 and min 1300 by the trader who trades a cotton to ginning factories for processing of cotton seed. so in shot from 40 kg cotton u can make 80 meters pure cotton. so v asume the processing cost is half of its cost its maximum ok add it. if u can add it so total cost of per meter is 50.63 ruppes in including processing cost v included all kind of brokrage and logestic cost. so would u think or even imagine to buy a pure cotton in market less then 500 on the name any pure cotton u even cant imagine this price so who is earning 500% min profit.=processer and trader. so there some sort of a corruption at a root level. As far as desighner is concers he or she sells there art so there is no value made to buy art so... they desrve so when on a root level there is a kind of a corruption of a banking sector who is promoting traders our new paint court tie wali new genration . then what do expect from other people when the whole system is corrupt where do u find a honest businessman who values his constumer time changed values changed buy it where ever u wantt buy. can v be part of a corrupt society expect something good from someone where every thing is for sale then obviously if trader and processor get500% perofit desighner desrves 1000% profit. so v r producing corrupt by calling then honerable made by money a system made by capitilisation which we agree was it self a frod y people are on wlastreet row. Wrong faniancing is cause of these high prices so lot of thing to be changed of mush lime like its taking still zias time v r facing once v hv to sit with a corrupt to servive in the society geting same king of respect as honest and dishonest what do u expect anything from any one its not posible. in society how can we balame any one else being part of a society but Maria.B rates are good. Her art more beautiful then any thing 1 cant thing it o buy at any coz desighn ki kimat desiner ki. so the magen between a rooot level farmer and end user is more than 2000% margine made fake corrupt rich with the help of capitilization so its decline start hope for good comming future things will be batter infuture. always hope for good

No Borders Twitter Family: Extremist Every Where

No Borders Twitter Family: Extremist Every Where: This all happened to me on my one beautiful morning of Sunday having a cup of Coffee and RJ cigar. A couple of months back or a year b...

Extremist Every Where

  • This all happened to me on my one beautiful morning of Sunday having a cup of Coffee and RJ cigar. A couple of months back or a year back a page on facebook named Mission Pakistan was liked by me by getting the inspiration from @Maria.B coz she also liked that page I thought she owns this page so i liked it. i also become a part of E mission Pakistan. One night In lahore  i saw her interview on some TV channel i saw her passion about Pakistan and like representing the youth of pakistan.  so all that  become enough reason to follow her . That was the time wen i was going trought the most worst time of my life. when i was fighting against my own system of sectarian extremism in the love of my identity of Pakistan and my Baluch Kabila. So when I saw Iranian shia i left all that means getting fredom from extremisam so in past i wz part of it. so I wz fighting with my own system by getting the inspiration from @SalmanTaseer. In shot that wz the time when i left extremism and adopted liberalism by the inspiration of @SalmanTaseer and lot of other things. At the same time i was also working on a project of corporate farming 4 the en betterment of  economic condetions of  my Jatoi kabila lives in Jhang. so im still honest to my passion and profession so its almost a year go im still on my project got myself  Diabetic and alser without takeing care of anything. So in love of Baluchki .Pakistan and my profession im continuously working from the last 12 months without having any kind of rest or break. 1 fine morning a person challenges my patriotism. I got hurt more then any thing. I left my friend my sect my family my every thing for my country and some one who representing here in saudi or iranian or any other who has a power to buy challanges my nationality and identity. He questioned me that am I a loyal Pakistani ?
    A Question by Present Extremist 

    Mr.Mabbas Khan I would like to humbly request you to unlike this page not because of your argument in fact for your use of foul language for people who are sacrificing for this country. I am willing to debate with you only on the condition that you shall do it objectively proving everything with facts. You will not be allowed to use slang,slurs and any disgusting language at all. You have the right to respond, which could most propbably your final comment on this page. We don't need you to lecture us on who is patriotic and we cannot believe in your opinionated and fact-less interpretations and understandings for religious leaders of Pakistan. We believe you are nothing but highly influenced by the propaganda against people who have served this country on fronts that you cannot imagine. You are unaware of the Soviet War and the implications it had on Pakistan. You have no idea how the resistance started and at what stage did US poured weapons. You don't seem to have any basic religious knowledge that can open the gates of enlightment for you on the issue of defense and sacrifice. You have given a wrong example of Imam Hussain. Never in history of Islam we have seen muslims tolerating Invasions from kuffar and occupations. Will you allow any US, Indian, Israeli soldier to rape a women of your family ? would you allow Indian government to decide and make rules for you ? would you let Isareli tanks bulldoze your house ? will you allow your brother and father to be killed in front of your eyes by American marines, and what if they urinate on their dead bodies ? Will you tolerate ? you tolerate this all only because it happens with Kashmiri people, or Afghans ? You should be ashamed of your filthy conscience and hatred against those people who follow Islam ? Let me ask you, could you please provide evidence of your definitions of Maulvis from Quran and Sunnah ? Could you please find me when did Prophet or his companions used the word "Maulvi". Don't you have any shame to consider people with beards as some lessers then you ? Why do you have to call a maulvi for namaz-e-janaza and ghusl when someone dies in your family ? There are many things I can teach you, which might force you to shave your mustaches even. Therefore I request you to seize from using dirty language, or get the hell out of here.. Thanks :)
    A Replly By an X ashamed Extremist
    15 hours ago ·
  • Mabbas Khan V nice to see ur tolrance. anywz i dont get into a debate like u want. I ll replly ur comment and then dislike this page and sorry if someone got hurt by my language im sorry. I aslo dont wantt be a part of this kind of mission Pakistan. so i ll replly ur comments in a while wait 4 them.
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  • Mabbas Khan So...1st i ll start where you ended. Im jatoi Baluch and u cant ever think or dream to shave my mustaches or bared. as far as myself is concern i wz beingn part of relgious politics more then 22 yrs and my age is now 36. I left that relgious politics a yearback that i don wantt to be part of a group who divides societies and creat hate against each other on the name of sect or religion.im not in faver of division in humanity on the name of religion and sect. so plz dont try to teach me islam i know batter then you and ur respectable religious politions called Molvi promoting extremism which become a cause of distruction of humanity. No Prophet and his companions never used the name of Molvi so at that there was not such kind of creacteror actor in society.
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  • Mabbas Khan ISLAM. Islam came to civilize the society so u can defend urself and fight with kufar is specific Circumstance where it is needed. i think if you have enough knowledge of Islam u ll be also knowing a word Hikmat of islam or stategy which is the most important thing in islam called war strategy also. which wz adopted by Prophet and Imaman in war zone what was that try to study in history u ll get batter argument. So see this kind of Strategy by Imam Hussain in makkah when he wz there for haj and left that place for the blood shed of commen people who were there for haj and gave his family, friends and his own life in Karbala it was a part of a satagey hikmat, tolrance, and also saved the distruction of human lives. so try to study that war stategy just from Makkah to Karbala adopted by Imam e Hussain a.s
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  • Mabbas Khan so the third thing i made a coffee for myself and a cigar fpr u also cheers. its very 1st time in my life that somebody asked me get out from a place which i owns. i also need a reply 4m u that on which basic moral values running a page of mission pakistan talks about jahad and jahadi people well knowing that v suferd 4m both. cause makes it in shape of diffrent jahads means makes an unnatural cause to give people moral to fight on there weakness of there religion in this region coz of love wth religion given by awliah allah or sofias so in diffrent shapes in subcontinent. u know what happend wth bosnian muslims after doing all this in afaghan war on the name of islam. the role of muslim in afghan war become the cause of blood shed of bosnian muslims u know batter r v the murderer of them ? if v didnt played our american role in this region on the name islam they were not being killed on the name of islam. at that time wen the russian war was started there were war lords been made in afghanistan and they were already there at the time of shah. there wz nothing on the name of relgion. It wz a regional war tried to make it a world war. it wz just to show power of a super power to the world in this region and had some sort of a indiian intrest also . so u forget with time intrest changes its a natural thing 1 cant deny it that Russia  wants to having a ccess of power in this region or incresing its captured area like afghanistan at that time. well as now amircan and iran r doing the same thing like whatever happening in arab states. so in any shape against russia or against talban all are same anthere own intrest in them so had nothing to do it must focusing our economy or future at that we dont have to shar in that war all says trade of wepons at that time. making a war lards in shape of sardars or making a taliban or sectarion groups both all are same acts like some reson to ask people to figiht knowing about the nature of these areas tribes. and american wants to indirectly sell wepons to iran on iraq war they are good business people both hv money of oil they earned from it trough this molvi regim of shia or some one else.so we Pakistani genrals and mlvies of that time like being a part of a society offered there servivces to american that help us in kashmir war and we will help you in human traficing in shape of jahadi is this thing against any morel value that u ll start selling religion and human lives wheather in afghanistan, iran or in russia. where were there human rughts at that time these people should be hanged on the name of human traficingfor other region intrest. so iran being a part of it get into and start buying people and american wepons from pakistani gerals and molvies so there saudi as part of arab regiem a strong economic power aslo get into it coz of agmi of iran means arab agem war. so its my basic right being a citizen of pakistan having a green id card my owned by my forefathers. accepted by themselves without enforcing anyone to accepted pakistan. it was there personal decission other wise we have a right being an indepandaint identity of baluch tribe in punjab. then we all know how much our country suffered from all that happened in afghan war. what we get just cia. itlat. made molvies and genrals nothing else. Now there new form is playing all this kind of role same as happened in past in Baluchistan my heart my land. dont forget genrals or some one else  having this kind of creater will always be called creacter like yazid. So My pakistan hv got nothing except few rich genrals and molive coz of human and arm traficing. Now Bangladesh and sirilanka has much batter economic conditions then pakistan. so asking me to get out from a page made for the mission pakistan who you are to take over my fredom of expresion how is it posible change the name of page give it name like promotion of jahad which destroyed us and our economy. so war against russia or against terrior to get into this region just wantt make resion to have direct access of this area against iran . Im the person Name Sardar Muhammad Abbas Khan Jatoi represting my tribe in pakistan left this page who leftt his sect and religion for being a honest with my mother pakistan when i saw iranian shia involvolment iin Baluchistan my blood my Mther My forfathers grave how can u do ASK ME TO LEAVE IT. u dont hv enough Moral logic and values to prove that i should leave no if this page name is mission Pakistan being a responsaible citizen i cant leave my pakistan in ur hands so the people who represent others interest on the name of money and selling there persnal faith against money im sorry i cant respect them. the one who sold my nationality how can i respect him witout informing me. i dont hv any fear of gun or gun shot nor need this kind of money earned by selling my brothers life so how can i keep my self quite. how you takled about my family baluch sarder representing baluch kabila lives in jhang punjab pakistan and son of a x army officer who always tought me for loyal to ur country. so my sweet heart being part of this dirty religious politics in past im ashamed of my self so how can i respect these kind of people u r asking me to if u respect them its ur personal decision u cant force me to change my view to cant take my basic right to live in this world and speak about wrong when see with eyes so how can you think that you desides that im a muslim or not who you are to ask my faith bad its my peronal and u cant take fredom to speak where i will always say loudly bad thing bad and good thing good. I know these faces batter then any agency of pakistan or international then you may be more then CIA or itlat of iran. So plz dont challenge my patriotism. My forgathers owned this land by giving blood v always fight for our land which always say my mother who gives me food to eat and live till now even wth each other but when somebody comes from outside to capture our land we all fight togather. i know creacter of hamid gul, Molvi sami ul haq or any one else i hv just 1 question would u do like to ans. Can u do politics of someones personal believe faith or something like simmiler to this can morally as muslim u do this is it posible to know someone very deep inside. Having some diffrent kind of of schoold of thought is not a bad thing in.islam dont permit. every person have a right and is resposable for his own faith, acts and belive in real life this is called ur religion. some one can do politics on it is it a shameful thing in a society to live. can vrepresent someones persnal faith ? so 1 st its against the natural process. so cheers Romioyjiolet cigar
    2 seconds ago ·
  • Mabbas Khan I know how to defend my land. V being in law of the satae still live with guns paying the taxes know how to fight but dont wantt fight for others intest. Right now our own land Pakistan wants our energy to work hard and honestly 4 my pakistan . so i as a Pakistani live here he have to go or live like pakistani otherwise leave pakistan. we are tring to come out of all these two fake wars or fake cause made by zia or mush on da name of islam or america. So i represent pakistan and I dont like those people who represent others having a natiionality of pakistan.
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Thursday, 26 January 2012

No Borders Twitter Family: Time changed Values changed need Change

No Borders Twitter Family: Time changed Values changed need Change: so....there was a time in Past when there was no accountability for a income tax officer. He seems like a king of some empire last day i wa...

Time changed Values changed need Change

so....there was a time in Past when there was no accountability for a income tax officer. He seems like a king of some empire last day i was reading master file of my firms income tax returns so while studding them i gott know after studying those documents of 80s that tax payer have to tell each and every detail of income and expanse in a documented proves and a written reply. Now a time starts where everybody needs change in system where nobody including tax department, Bank and any other department is accountable. they dont bothers that from where its coming either by honesty or dishonesty. Banks just needs transaction wheather it more then the revenue of business which you owns or not. They dont bother so here we expect lot from system knowing that its Corrupt. So somewhere someone is corrupt in shape of dishonesty and some is crrupt in acting a role of a Regligious Guide ha ha ha some times a smiles come s on my face by thinking about this creacter. which ownself has no creacter made to earn by acting and selling religion and some where a smart boy in a good dress of paint tie coat represnting some telcome sector or banking sector they dont know about a responsibility of there profession. The 1 which is acting like a banker is basically acting like a banker he dont know nothing about banking. so some where we find another young or old actor who is crroupt in love he is called lover but don't know about love just acting like a lover so what do you expect from this kind of society. so felt good by writing something here last day i wz just happy that i made this Blog today im happy that i have tried something to write dont know how to write but i wrote by getting inspiration from my Tweety friend @patleykamar my sobcontinent buety in red jeans. Subcontinant is calling you back in dopate and chonri pajama where you was just made for home nor for going to passport office again and again kanch ki chorian and kajal is waiting for you in subcontinent forget india pakistan no borders between societies after twitter and facebook. in this kind of eviorment where one have east access of comunication without borders. Like my brothers Baluchi Baluch are fighting war of there nation sitting in swisserland luxerious place and on other hand there tribes are selling there bodies to iranians and others.

Beauti of fredom

Its a Beauty of freedom that we all here together without borders in shape of blog or twitter or Facebook. so a real kind of beauty in accessing people of different regions so i don't bother about religion its ur personal faith. So lets see what i ll write in future. Now just feeling happy that i have made this blog unintentional.